Recession Now.

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So, the clock is ticking. How far from Recession is the US economy. Well in this article from CBC.ca the question is put to bankers and citizens alike:

"We sure are not far from it and it will feel like a recession," said Cooper, chief economist at BMO, calling the decline in the U.S. housing market "without precedent." 

  Yet,

"The recent data suggest that the U.S. economy is falling into recession," Goldman Sachs economists said in a research note Wednesday. But they say the recession will be "relatively mild by historical standards" and should last two or three quarters.

And

A day earlier, a Merrill Lynch report said the U.S. economy was already in recession.

With our Canadian economy so directly tied to the US economy (particularly in ON, since we trade more with the US than any other province since NAFTA) the future doesn't look bright for us here either.  According to a new poll, by Pollara, many Canadians are feeling hard hit by current economics: 

Half of all Canadians surveyed said they expect their household income to fall behind the cost of living this year. That's the most pessimistic personal outlook the annual survey has uncovered in its 24-year history.

This number apparently doubled from last year's poll. Apparently 61 percent of Canadians asked believe that the US economy is going downhill this year - and they won't be on skis, thanks to global warming. 

Apart of the ongoing dialogue on the LC about the oncoming recession in the US I'd like to add a few thoughts:

The response to the forclosure crisis will be crucial. Jesse Jackson, among many other community activists, are leading a march on HUD this Jan 22nd, and demanding action be taken by Wall Street and Washington to mediate this huge crisis. Whether you talk about New Orleans or hedge funds, the issue is how the Corporate world is destroying one of the most fundamental human rights: the right to a home.

We've seen this in the developing world, but in a different way, and most often with other human rights issues, since so many are already homeless. The privitization of water access in Latin America and South Africa. Or like in the case of Argentina, when virtually everything was privatized, and then the bankers and other corporate execs plundered most the country's wealth and split overnight. It will be interesting to see what happens in the heart of the Empire, where such a large concentration of the world's wealthiest live but yet now with such a vast population of impoverished and (soon) homeless. What will Obama or Clinton do? It's certian they won't do much unless the citizens continue to march in the streets and organize. That's all I can say.

As for Canada, we're not there yet, but could be if we don't act quicker than we are to alter the infrastructure of our economy and housing.

We need to develop affordable, sustainable housing projects in urban or new urban environments ...

.. not big box, white American, sprawl. This model is failing right before our eyes. It's astronmically beyond our economic might, and leaves environmental waste in its wake, and will lead to more poverty and homelessness once the housing market goes bust. And once peak oil hits ... ah, I'm preaching to the converted.

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Greg Fowler's picture

U.S. Dependency on Foreign Loans

Thomas,

An interesting read HERE about the mess that the Americans have gotten themselves into.

Greg

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Thomas Czermak's picture

I dig Greg, he's the best.

I dig Greg, he's the best. Thanks for the find. I've also never come across thefilter before? Is it fairly new?

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TheFilter

 

 I've been reading it for about a year now. I can't tell you how much older than that it is.

 

G.

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Robert Logue's picture

Thanks for the update

I wonder how long it will be before Merill Lynch is declared a terrorist organization?  The reasons for the prediction that this recession will last 2-3 quarters is that that is approximately when Bush will be leaving office.  His legacy is astounding: 2 recessions during his time in office (truly one for the history books).  In general, though, the US economy rebounds at the begining of new presidential terms.  If you look at the Yield Curve right now, interest rates are saying the same thing: bad times (indicated by an inverted yield curve) until Bush leaves office (at which point the yield curve slopes upwards again).  These are the market expectations, but what exactly are Obama, Clinton or Edwards going to do differently that will change the course of things (assuming a democratic win in 2008)?  I don't see any particularly spectacular policies coming from any of these contenders.  So what exactly does the market know, that I don't, that results in such expectations?  Or is it just blind faith that any new administration would be better than the current one?  This i can't answer.

 

So whither Canada?  The BofC is inbetween a rock and a hard place right now, with only one blunt instrument (short-term interest rates), in which to act?  The problem of course is that central banks have three targets to choose from (inflation, unemployment and exchange rates).  The blunt instrument of BofC open market operations can only choose one.  If history is any guide, price stability will be the priority.  (Even if the Federal Reserve chooses a different target). 

 

Dealing with the other problems will require adressing the underlying problems with our economy. (ie. some of the issues Thomas mentioned above).  These issues, as Thomas rightly point out, have everything to do with our reliance on fossil fuels.  As the balance of payments slowly reverses and the Gulf states and South-east asian countries begin to cash in their dollar reserves, massive increases in demand for commodities and energy will push prices way up.  The best way of avoiding the inflationary impact of this is to drastically restructure the Canadian economy away from fossil fuels.  If the BodC raises interest rates, the federal government should at the same time form massive investment funds to allow companies building alternatives to the fossil fuel economy to access capital at rates far below market rates, lowering the user cost of such capital and dramatically accelerating investment in the sustainable economy. 

Also, immediate regulation on currency speculation (possibly through a tax?) is required, if we are to prevent the exchange rate instability we've recently seen.  Speculators, looking to make a quick buck, have dramatically exasperated exchange rate fluctuations, doing terrible harm to many people and putting the Canadian dollar way above its equillibrium level. 

As we move forwards, times look to be difficult, but we should rejoice in the fact that finally, the ethically right thing to do (in terms of global climate change) is slowly alligning with what is in our own economic interests (though some argue this has always been the case).  This country can either be ahead of the curve (by ending subsidies to an unsustainable way of life, and initiating a carbon tax to send the right price signals, as well as a variety of other policies..), or it can lag behind and see its/our future crumble. 

'Poverty is the worst form of violence" - Gandhi

Thomas Czermak's picture

Great analysis. I gotta sit

Great analysis. I gotta sit you down at a coffee shop sometime so I can yank some more info from that colossal reservoir of yours.

Thomas Czermak's picture

Here's a good article that

Here's a good article that just showed up today at Alternet.org on the subject.

According to a CNN poll, 57 percent of Americans thought we were already in a recession a month ago. Economists may complain that this is only because the public is ignorant of the technical -- or at least the newspapers' standard -- definition of a recession, which specifies that there must be at least two consecutive quarters of negative growth in the GDP. But most of the public employs the more colloquial definition of a recession, which is hard times. If hard times have already fallen on a majority of Americans, then "recession" doesn't seem to be a very useful term any more. 

Thomas Czermak's picture

A great short by Amy Wolf on

A funny short by Amy Wolf on "big box vs local" that relates to my rant about sprawl.

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